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« on: May 22, 2008, 06:37:16 PM »

I love handicaps Grin
I was told by a reliable source Lips sealed that 'sprinters' don't like handicaps. Is this true?

I'm sure everyone has the gist of what a handicap race is Smiley
I've raced in a few but for the benefit of those that haven't participated in a graded handicap before could a better explainerer 'Please Explain' Cheesy




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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 08:10:03 PM »

For those that don't know how handicaps work...

 I don't know that it is true that sprinters don't like handicaps, they just have to do a bit more work if they aren't used to it. Our club handicaps wouldn't be too different for the top graders though, guys like Brad, Mick and Chicken  Grin , it is still a similar race to what they do every week. The big difference is if you can get your bunch working and stay away. Obviously the idea of a handicap is to have everyone cross the line at exactly the same time, you need to get your 'friends' to help you stay away until you can then start hating them again and go for the 'cash'. When you are caught by the bunch behind you, you need to recover then help them, you all become the hare in the chase, and the big dogs, A Grade, are hunting you down as quickly as they can. Ride as fast as you can, as long as you can. Use every tactic that you can to conserve your energy, and above all....
  Hope that the handicapper gets it wrong, and/or there are some strong burglars that have slipped into your bunch!!!  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 09:06:06 AM »

This is very true Allen, Sprinters do not like handicaps Grin. I may have to start in B grade this week Wink
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2008, 09:52:28 AM »

Handicaps: 'Please Explain' Cheesy


Handicaps are different to the scratch races that you are used to because:

  • everyone from A to E grade is in the same race
  • you ride with a small group of riders who have roughly the same ability as you
  • each group of riders is separated by a time gap on the start line (ie. the handicap)
  • you have to ride consistently at a higher pace than normal
  • work is shared equally amongst all riders in your group, including those lazy sprinters

A handicap usually has two distinct phases: accretion and the end-game. 

Accretion is where faster groups catch the groups and dropped riders ahead of them.  In a perfect handicap this wouldn't happen until the finish line, and all the groups would cross the line together in a dead-heat!  But it's not a perfect world and most groups will have merged with some distance still to go. 

At some point riders who think they have what it takes to stake a claim for a top 10 spot will start to employ tactics to drop other riders, or take shelter in the bunch to try to stay with the faster riders.  That's the end-game.  Initially the pace will increase as the scratchies make contact and take control, then it will start to fluctuate as surges ripple through the pack.  If the bunch is large enough the tail will be "whipping" (fast-slow-fast-slow) so wildly that riders will start to drop off from exhaustion.

Within the accretion phase the groups need to ride at a pace that is sustainable and will also allow them to a) catch the groups in front of them before the finish and b) delay being caught by the groups chasing them.  The group needs to work together as a single unit, so communication is vital.  Riders need to roll through smoothly (ie. no surging) for their turn at the front so that no-one wastes precious energy. Experienced riders may do some coaching on the fly to help novice riders get used to working efficiently in a paceline, so don't take offence if you're a novice and someone offers you advice: it's for the good of the whole group.

Sometimes stronger riders within a group may sense that riders in their group are starting to wilt.  Tired riders are usually a liability because the group can only ride at the pace of their slowest rider, so the stronger riders will decide whether to shelter those riders or shell them.  Either way, everyone else has to work harder. 

If groups start to disintegrate then the shelled riders need to recover while they roll along waiting for the next chasing group to sweep them up.   In a club handicap it's usual for the chasing group to invite shelled riders to join them (ie. calling from about 30m out so the shelled rider can match their speed).  If they do join it usually takes a few km before they have the legs to help out with the workload (if at all!).

Not much else to say, except have fun!  See ya Sunday

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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2008, 11:08:20 AM »

That is a fantastic explanation Jock. I have learnt so much from reading your summary.

"work is shared equally amongst all riders in your group, including those lazy sprinters
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This sounds very much like my interpretation of a team race!  Smiley

Now if I can only get the A Graders to call me when they are sweeping by, I might finally get to sit on their tails legally for a change  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2008, 12:33:07 PM »


Now if I can only get the A Graders to call me when they are sweeping by,
They WILL NOT be sweeping by......
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2008, 01:26:33 PM »


Now if I can only get the A Graders to call me when they are sweeping by,
They WILL NOT be sweeping by......

Nicely put Al!!
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 02:35:31 PM »

Duffman - will you be up the with the handicap start times?
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2008, 03:52:16 PM »

Duffman - will you be up the with the handicap start times?

Yesterday I supplied Chris with all the race times that have been held this year, so I am sure he is doing all the start times as we speak.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2008, 04:00:52 PM »

Duffman - will you be up the with the handicap start times?

Yesterday I supplied Chris with all the race times that have been held this year, so I am sure he is doing all the start times as we speak.

im glad A grade has been a little slower than usual this year.

That way we will catch in 62km-68km bracket.

Yours in predictions,
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2008, 05:18:42 PM »

Duffman - will you be up the with the handicap start times?
I'm on my way to his place to offer some advice........with a six pack of VB for him Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2008, 04:51:13 PM »

I know that it may be hard to put a report on from the handicap today due to everyone being separated and in small bunches, buuuuuuuut; How did it go? How did you go? Was the win stolen away from the scatchies?
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2008, 05:06:36 PM »

I know that it may be hard to put a report on from the handicap today due to everyone being separated and in small bunches, buuuuuuuut; How did it go? How did you go? Was the win stolen away from the scatchies?

Rosko,  They DID sweep by, about 6~7 A Graders,  got the front of D at the top of Blood on the last lap.  D stayed away from C, a couple of B's were in with A (I think).

Mick, then Phil.  The hour of pain obviously was a warm up!
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2008, 06:08:34 PM »

sounds like a close-ish race.
I had to take a dog to the vet ( :'($$$$$) so missed all the fun.
did a loop- tuggerah - terrigal - woy woy - wets gos - kariong then back to tuggerah down the fwy, so i didn't feel completely left out.
A graders? B graders? love to hear how the race unfolded......
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2008, 06:12:14 PM »

Here are my thoughts to start the forum buzzing although at the risk of upsetting some B graders: I was talking to a B grader at the end and he said that there were guys attacking off the front and every slight rise there would be guys bombing through. This may be cool for a normal race but in a h'cap you should all be worknig together and staying away.
When A caught B they were all over the road with 3 guys 20mts off the front? No wonder we caught you so easy!

your thoughts.....
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